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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.blahstuff.com/oldstuff/2007/05/01/627/lucid-absinthe/#comment-148810</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds psychosomatic to me. All I've ever gotten from any absinthe is booze+buzz. It's a nice little upper/downer mix. Nothing I'd call "stoned".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds psychosomatic to me. All I&#8217;ve ever gotten from any absinthe is booze+buzz. It&#8217;s a nice little upper/downer mix. Nothing I&#8217;d call &#8220;stoned&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: NOB37</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOB37</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am drinking lucid right now and i feel kind of stoned and i have only had two shots and am working on my third just sipping away.  It is not normal alcohol and it is not pot.  some where in the middle.  Who knows it feels good, but it is expensive.  a great film to watch is the Darjeeling Limited directed by Wes Anderson, for its sound track and colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am drinking lucid right now and i feel kind of stoned and i have only had two shots and am working on my third just sipping away.  It is not normal alcohol and it is not pot.  some where in the middle.  Who knows it feels good, but it is expensive.  a great film to watch is the Darjeeling Limited directed by Wes Anderson, for its sound track and colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.blahstuff.com/oldstuff/2007/05/01/627/lucid-absinthe/#comment-59861</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, Drew.</description>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.blahstuff.com/oldstuff/2007/05/01/627/lucid-absinthe/#comment-59802</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel compelled to help dispel the myth of how Absinthe works, particularly in the new FDA approved version.

Lucid (the legal absinthe) contains Thujone, it is impossible to seperate it from Artemesia Absinthium. It does however, not cross over through the distillation process to any great extent. Where Lucid is concerned, the inventor asserts he has reverse engineered actual 19th century Absinthes found at estate sales and from other collectors, in this process he has found that the actual thujone content of these traditional absinthes just happens to fall under the legal requirements of the US (along with a successful argument in semantics with the FDA) and he has created Lucid, jumped through all the correct hoops, and here it is.

The problem we are facing today with all the other producers of the appertif is that the true formulaes were lost and those that produced it in the internm, what with the law screaming about thujone, assumed that there must be high concentrations in the original formulaes, which we now know is untrue.

Alcohol is a GABA agonist. It stimulates the production of this neurotransmitter which causes drowsiness and sleep.

Thujone is a GABA antagonist. It prohibits alcohol from performing that part of it's function.

Absinthe is therefore a type of 'speedball', it's chemical constituents at once promote the production of GABA and opens its receptors, while also closing those receptors off. This explains the 'lucid' effect that absinthe has, as oppossed to just normal drunkenness, which is associated with drowsiness.

Another definition would be that the inhibitory effect of the antagonist thujone allows the consumer of absinthe to reach a stage of drunkenness that one would not be able to experience; the key word here is experience, not achieve; if one were consuming normal alcohol.

This is the muse revealed. All the thujone allows is for the door opened in the psyche by alcohol to remain open longer, allowing the consumer to experience the effects of the alcohol as he would normally not be able to.

My above passage is further proved by this quote from the National Academy of the Sciences.

â€œ...the 10 ppm (66 ÂµM) upper limit of the European Commission (6) and particularly the 260 ppm (1710 ÂµM) thujone content of old absinthe (6) would give a detectable to major inhibitory effect beyond that of the ethanol content. Current low levels of thujone in absinthe are of much less toxicological concern than the ethanol contentâ€?

Wormwood is traditional an insecticide and used to treat intestinal worms. The herb itself has been safely used for centuries for this specific treatment. I have grown wormwood and have a lb. sitting in my cupboard. I drink it straight as a tisane with no toxic effects. Thujone itself will contribute to renal failure if taken in large doses. One should never consume the essential oil of wormwood for any purpose.

Lucid and those that follow like Marteau Verte Classique are to be, in my opinion, perfectly legitimate classic absinthes that contain thujone. When you drink it, you will be producing the effect in your brain that I described above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel compelled to help dispel the myth of how Absinthe works, particularly in the new FDA approved version.</p>
<p>Lucid (the legal absinthe) contains Thujone, it is impossible to seperate it from Artemesia Absinthium. It does however, not cross over through the distillation process to any great extent. Where Lucid is concerned, the inventor asserts he has reverse engineered actual 19th century Absinthes found at estate sales and from other collectors, in this process he has found that the actual thujone content of these traditional absinthes just happens to fall under the legal requirements of the US (along with a successful argument in semantics with the FDA) and he has created Lucid, jumped through all the correct hoops, and here it is.</p>
<p>The problem we are facing today with all the other producers of the appertif is that the true formulaes were lost and those that produced it in the internm, what with the law screaming about thujone, assumed that there must be high concentrations in the original formulaes, which we now know is untrue.</p>
<p>Alcohol is a GABA agonist. It stimulates the production of this neurotransmitter which causes drowsiness and sleep.</p>
<p>Thujone is a GABA antagonist. It prohibits alcohol from performing that part of it&#8217;s function.</p>
<p>Absinthe is therefore a type of &#8217;speedball&#8217;, it&#8217;s chemical constituents at once promote the production of GABA and opens its receptors, while also closing those receptors off. This explains the &#8216;lucid&#8217; effect that absinthe has, as oppossed to just normal drunkenness, which is associated with drowsiness.</p>
<p>Another definition would be that the inhibitory effect of the antagonist thujone allows the consumer of absinthe to reach a stage of drunkenness that one would not be able to experience; the key word here is experience, not achieve; if one were consuming normal alcohol.</p>
<p>This is the muse revealed. All the thujone allows is for the door opened in the psyche by alcohol to remain open longer, allowing the consumer to experience the effects of the alcohol as he would normally not be able to.</p>
<p>My above passage is further proved by this quote from the National Academy of the Sciences.</p>
<p>â€œ&#8230;the 10 ppm (66 ÂµM) upper limit of the European Commission (6) and particularly the 260 ppm (1710 ÂµM) thujone content of old absinthe (6) would give a detectable to major inhibitory effect beyond that of the ethanol content. Current low levels of thujone in absinthe are of much less toxicological concern than the ethanol contentâ€?</p>
<p>Wormwood is traditional an insecticide and used to treat intestinal worms. The herb itself has been safely used for centuries for this specific treatment. I have grown wormwood and have a lb. sitting in my cupboard. I drink it straight as a tisane with no toxic effects. Thujone itself will contribute to renal failure if taken in large doses. One should never consume the essential oil of wormwood for any purpose.</p>
<p>Lucid and those that follow like Marteau Verte Classique are to be, in my opinion, perfectly legitimate classic absinthes that contain thujone. When you drink it, you will be producing the effect in your brain that I described above.</p>
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		<title>By: Qwazar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qwazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does any one know of a working coupon code I could use at the Drinkupny.com website when I purchase the Lucid Absinthe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does any one know of a working coupon code I could use at the Drinkupny.com website when I purchase the Lucid Absinthe?</p>
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		<title>By: Pipalmighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pipalmighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, I took the shot of Lucid along side a shot of Absinthe (about 1 hour apart) since I still have some left over from when I was in the Navy and bought some in Europe.  The real Absinthe has less of a black licorice flavor than the Lucid did... but I was abe to tone it down a little... the sugar really helps.  I also made some of the simple syrup which does the trick nicely too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, I took the shot of Lucid along side a shot of Absinthe (about 1 hour apart) since I still have some left over from when I was in the Navy and bought some in Europe.  The real Absinthe has less of a black licorice flavor than the Lucid did&#8230; but I was abe to tone it down a little&#8230; the sugar really helps.  I also made some of the simple syrup which does the trick nicely too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.blahstuff.com/oldstuff/2007/05/01/627/lucid-absinthe/#comment-48097</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also placed an order at &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.drinkupny.com/product_p/s0390.htm"&gt;DrinkupNY&lt;/a&gt;, though they are currently on backorder:
&lt;blockquote&gt;DrinkUpNY is currently accepting pre-orders for our next shipment Lucid Absinthe, which is expected to arrive in the last week of July. Suppliers of this limited-production liqueur are currently out of stock in the United States, so reserve your bottles now to receive them as soon as possible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Anything I can do to demonstrate demand, right?

And really guys, absinthe is *supposed* to have a strong anise flavor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also placed an order at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.drinkupny.com/product_p/s0390.htm">DrinkupNY</a>, though they are currently on backorder:</p>
<blockquote><p>DrinkUpNY is currently accepting pre-orders for our next shipment Lucid Absinthe, which is expected to arrive in the last week of July. Suppliers of this limited-production liqueur are currently out of stock in the United States, so reserve your bottles now to receive them as soon as possible.</p></blockquote>
<p>Anything I can do to demonstrate demand, right?</p>
<p>And really guys, absinthe is *supposed* to have a strong anise flavor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I was mistaken about the Thujone content in Lucid. It isn't 10mg/L. Evidently that is the legal limit for Thujone content and Lucid is under that legal limit. I don't find any specification of the Thujone content in Lucid other than that it's very low. Some have called it "zero thujone", but I doubt that's true. Anyhow, I think it has been pretty well proven that Thujone content has little relation to the effectiveness of the Absinthe. Any product which boasts high Thujone levels is probably lying to outsell their competitors. If not, then they are putting their clientele at risk by exposing them to unnecessary amounts of a chemical that has been shown to have potentially harmful effects in high dosages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I was mistaken about the Thujone content in Lucid. It isn&#8217;t 10mg/L. Evidently that is the legal limit for Thujone content and Lucid is under that legal limit. I don&#8217;t find any specification of the Thujone content in Lucid other than that it&#8217;s very low. Some have called it &#8220;zero thujone&#8221;, but I doubt that&#8217;s true. Anyhow, I think it has been pretty well proven that Thujone content has little relation to the effectiveness of the Absinthe. Any product which boasts high Thujone levels is probably lying to outsell their competitors. If not, then they are putting their clientele at risk by exposing them to unnecessary amounts of a chemical that has been shown to have potentially harmful effects in high dosages.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Thujone content is roughly 10mg per liter (or 10ppm). That is not alot... however, the thujone is not what creates the legendary effect of absinthe. Check out this Wiki article on Thujone - it explains this point. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone

Pipalmighty, the "black licorice" (anise) flavor you're talking about has been reduced significantly - in Lucid Absinthe - from that of traditional absinthe, which is MUCH more licoricey. I don't like traditional absinthe for that exact reason. I just ordered my 1st bottle of Lucid today and I'm looking forward to getting it tomorrow (free overnight shipping from DrinkUpNY.com) so I can taste it for myself. 

I'm hoping it is indeed less potent in anise flavor because that's one reason I ordered it. 

And $60 (if it's really as good as people are saying) is a BARGAIN for a bottle of Absinthe with a full-measure of actual Wormwood. That is hard to find!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Thujone content is roughly 10mg per liter (or 10ppm). That is not alot&#8230; however, the thujone is not what creates the legendary effect of absinthe. Check out this Wiki article on Thujone - it explains this point. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone</a></p>
<p>Pipalmighty, the &#8220;black licorice&#8221; (anise) flavor you&#8217;re talking about has been reduced significantly - in Lucid Absinthe - from that of traditional absinthe, which is MUCH more licoricey. I don&#8217;t like traditional absinthe for that exact reason. I just ordered my 1st bottle of Lucid today and I&#8217;m looking forward to getting it tomorrow (free overnight shipping from DrinkUpNY.com) so I can taste it for myself. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping it is indeed less potent in anise flavor because that&#8217;s one reason I ordered it. </p>
<p>And $60 (if it&#8217;s really as good as people are saying) is a BARGAIN for a bottle of Absinthe with a full-measure of actual Wormwood. That is hard to find!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pipalmighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pipalmighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After sampling my own Bottle Of Lucid, I have come to a few Conclusions.  
First, the black Licorice taste is a bit over-powering. (straight shot)  When made tradionally, with the spoon and sugar, it's a more pleasant taste.  
I did however, concoct my Own little Drink, (being the little mixologist I am)
I have named it the Night Shadow, and will be posting the Recipe on my Myspace page.

www.myspace.com/fatguyinaleathercoat

It wil be under the blog section.
Worth the cost, and glad to have it around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After sampling my own Bottle Of Lucid, I have come to a few Conclusions.<br />
First, the black Licorice taste is a bit over-powering. (straight shot)  When made tradionally, with the spoon and sugar, it&#8217;s a more pleasant taste.<br />
I did however, concoct my Own little Drink, (being the little mixologist I am)<br />
I have named it the Night Shadow, and will be posting the Recipe on my Myspace page.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/fatguyinaleathercoat" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/fatguyinaleathercoat</a></p>
<p>It wil be under the blog section.<br />
Worth the cost, and glad to have it around.</p>
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